Kamala Harris

Host: Vice President Harris, welcome back to the Battle Born State. Kamala Harris: Thank you. It's good to be back. I see many friends.

Host: You've been to Nevada many times over the years, though. You're no stranger to Nevada. Kamala Harris: No, Nevada's my first cousin.

Host: But let's catch up. Fill us in. How have you been, and what have you been up to? Kamala Harris: Oh, thank you. I am well.

All things considered, I am well. Doug is well and sends his best to everybody. Our kids are well.

I've been traveling a lot and you know, I've had this real need to just listen, and so I've been traveling our country and listening to a lot of folks and that's been good. It's been good to do.

It's. You know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of suffering, we know, and fear and all of the emotions that one rightly feels when they see the brutality and the injustice of what we have witnessed.

But I will tell you in my travels, there's a lot that should give us hope also and renew our faith in what is possible, especially when we like we are doing this afternoon, sit together as a community of people who care and who love and who fight for what's right and who maintain an understanding that, anything that we stand for is worth fighting for, and we stand for a lot, and we're up for a good fight.

Up for a good fight. Host: Thank you. We've you know, a few of us have been traveling the state and doing just Yeah. And I think that's really important.

Yeah. Well, you recently gave a speech where you said we need a post-Trump vision, specifically calls for a revival of the American Dream, and you are speaking to my heart here. I am a diehard believer in restoring the American Dream because my family lived it. Yeah. So can you talk to us about what that looks like?

Kamala Harris: Well, let's start with this. Look, for far too many people in our country, the American Dream, is not real, and in fact, for many people in their lived experience, it's what they would consider an American myth, and we have to be honest about that. You know, so in my travels, I've been spending a lot of time, for example, in the South.

I was in Jackson, Mississippi, and what I've been doing is meeting with the, in particular, nonprofits and the and meeting with the folks that they serve. And so I met this woman, got to know her, and I am, like, grocery shopping with her. She is a mother of three children.

She receives SNAP benefits. She likes to do hair, but she needs a license, so she's putting herself through cosmetology school. Her weekly budget for food for the four of them is a hundred and fifty dollars.

Mm. We went grocery shopping. I went grocery shopping with her, in the at the discount grocery store. You know, the cart barely can move.

She's picking out things, putting them in the, in the cart. I then asked her Then this is a woman with grace and with dignity and poise. And I asked her, "Well, what is what's in the cart for you?"

And that was the only time she broke down, to share that she will eat whatever the kids don't eat. She was explaining to me, you know, when we were kids, like, the Chef Boyardee came in a can. It's now in, like, a red plastic cup.

And she was explaining how it was it's more expensive now than it was a couple months ago 'cause of all tariffs and all, right, all this ridiculousness. We then go and there we go into the beverage aisle, and she's buying bottled water. Now, on that tight budget, she explained to me she's buying bottled water because, you see, the water that comes out of her tap is brown.

And sometimes it's so bad she can't bathe her children in that water. And she looks at me, and she says, "You know, there are a lot of people like me." And this was the thing that was most poignant, and she said, "Don't they see me?

When they're talking about the economy as this and that, don't they see me?" And she's working hard. She's taking care of her children.

She loves her children. She's putting herself through school. She wants a better life for herself and her family.

So when I talk about the American Dream for so many people has become an American myth, I'm talking about that. I'm talking about the woman I met who shared with me. She's documented. Mm. Her husband is not.

Her children were born here. They are, obviously. And she's a housekeeper, and she was explaining to me how, the building in which most of the folks that she knows, immigrants live, an apartment building, it's like thirty percent occupancy right now. It never has been that way.

Why? Because they know that these buildings are where the raids are happening, so families have moved out of those buildings and are now renting basically unfinished basements in people's house scattered out around the community so that they won't be a So paying more money than they should ever be paying for an unfinished basement.

How women that live in her community, are not going to the hospital to give birth for fear that their baby will be taken from them. These things are happening in America. So when I think about all of this, and I think about the fact that right here in Nevada, because of what's going on, you know, we can talk A train.

You know. We can talk We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to that. But here in Nevada, it costs 20 more dollars at least to fill your tank than it did months ago.

Here in Nevada, it costs $1,500 more a year because of all the tariffs, right? Which we predicted. Yeah. When you look at how many people are struggling, I just say that we it is time for us, I think, to agree as part of our vision that not only are we gonna deal with the crises of this moment and fight and march and organize and vote, but we also have to have a vision.

And part of that vision, in my mind, has to be about let's, let's a revival of the American Dream. An American revival. And you know, I'm talking about good old-fashioned, like, revival. You know, like, if any of you have been, like, at a church revival, you know this.

Some shouting and some singing and some dancing and some. Like, it can be good, right? But a revival. And what does that look like?

Well, where if you work a 40-hour week, you can afford your rent and food on the table and maybe a vacation from time to time. Not scraping to get by, praying you can get through the end of the month. What does that look like?

It means affordable housing, affordable childcare, and not scraping to get by. When right now in America, childcare is, in some places, more expensive than rent. Yeah. When we talk about caring about families, revival of American Dream, where we have a tax code that's not just about benefiting vast wealth, but about benefiting hard work.

A public education system. Right? Revival of an American Dream, where we have a public education system that is about preparing our young, bright minds for the workforce of the 21st century and not for a lifetime of debt. These are the aims.

Right? And so that's what I'm talking about and thinking about and calling for. Which is we know that when we have been at that state where we believe in that hard work pays off, that being engaged in the community and being a, a responsible civic member, right, engaged in our community, that that pays off.

Because right now, there are so many people who don't believe that they can dream and actually achieve something. And I've traveled not only around our country, but around the world, and when you look at what is happening in our country in terms of our psyche right now, we got some work to do, and it's gonna be the work of all of us, by the way.

I know it's the work of the people in this room. That's why we're all here together this afternoon. But it's, it's gotta be all of us.

Right? I mean, I think part of it is about a civic renewal. You know, I'm traveling and and people ask me all the time, "What can I do?" Well, you all know what to do.

That's why we're all here together. That's why you're active in the party. That's why you're knocking on doors and organizing and reminding people of the power of their vote.

You know, a civic renewal. People say, "Well, what does that mean?" I said, "Well, you know, like they've been cutting all the benefits to all of these nonprofits who are taking care of the homeless, who are taking care of families who are in need."

Volunteer, right? You'd be shocked the number of nonprofits that if you call 'em up and say, "Hey, I got 10 extra dollars. Can I send it to you?" Or "I got one day a month that I can come in for a few hours," what that would mean.

I'm like, heck, you know what? Do the things that are about nei the power of neighbor to neighbor, right? The power of the individual in a community.

It could mean, you know, you're gonna go on a Costco run, and then you tell that single father or single mother that you know, "Hey, I'm about to run to Costco. Can I pick up anything for you?" Because in this environment right now, people are feeling so unseen and heard, and they're feeling so alone.

And when we try to think about how we're gonna get through this, we cannot let these forces that are about brutality, we cannot let this administration that is the most corrupt, callous, and incompetent presidential administration we've ever We cannot let them distinguish our spirit. They can't extinguish our spirit. We have, each of us, a light inside of us.

We've known those moments where we enjoyed this so much. It was in each of us. Nobody gave it to any of us.

It was in us, and we saw it in each other, that light. And in particular, in moments of darkness, that light is most important. And so that's how I'm thinking about this moment, and when I talk about, you know, I'm calling for a revival of the American dream, it's about all of that.

Host: But it is about putting the power with the people, right? Yeah. Thank you for that. I wanna say thank you 'cause there were a couple of things you said.

You know, you talked about Americans not believing, and I agree. I think they're facing a crisis of hope right now. Yeah. And so thank you for fighting for restoring that American dream to make it a dream and no longer a myth.

And Mm-hmm. You said you went grocery shopping with a woman. Mm. You met her where she was.

Yeah. You went out and you met the voters where they were. Mm-hmm. And you probably made her feel seen for the first time in a very long time, so thank you. Yeah. So I have another question for you.

Okay. So often here in America, we can feel isolated from the impacts of global issues. But right now we aren't. We have gas prices soaring, and a lot of us look at what's happening with US leadership around the world, and we are incredibly concerned and scared sometimes, too.

You spent a lot of your time as vice president working to rebuild America's relationships. Yeah. What do you think about what's happening right now, and do you think America's reputation can recover?

Kamala Harris: Well so, you know, that's actually a great segue from where we were because it, like, a revival of the American dream includes that we'we as a nation agree that we it is, it is consistent with that dream and creating opportunity in our nation that we would have and invest in affordable healthcare and affordable housing and affordable childcare and not in a war that nobody wants. Right. Right? Billions of dollars.

And so, you know, where we are, I'm very concerned, I must admit, but I think we can get, we can get on the other side of this, and I also believe it's gonna take some time. As vice president of the United States, I met with over 150 world leaders, presidents, prime ministers, chancellors, and kings, many of them multiple times, and I developed relationships with them. And I will tell you something.

Donald Trump is the first president of the United States of either party, Republican or Democrat, since World War II, who has thumbed his nose at the importance of America's relationships with our allies. Thumbed his nose at it, walked away from them, points fingers at them, calls them names, degrades them in the Oval Office.

He's the first president of the United States of either party who has not assumed a responsibility, imperfect though we may be, to be a standard-bearer around international rules and norms such as sovereignty and territorial integrity. See what's happening in Ukraine. First one. And you know, these relationships, foreign relations, it's really like relationships in your personal life.

So your friendships, the strength of a friendship will be based on do we have mutually recognized the history of the relationship, where we've been, what we've been through? Is there truth and honesty in the relationship? Is there consistency in the relationship?

Can I count on you? Are you present? And he has abandoned so many of these relationships. NATO. You understand. Listen, I as vice president, I would I went and represented the United States of America at the Munich Security Conference every year, and I would speak in front of our NATO allies in Munich.

And the I'll tell you the first time I went, I realized how much the 1930s are in their blood and bones as a memory of how things can go and how bad it can be. And not as much, I think, in our memory of what tyranny and fascism and and and brutality and abuse of power can look like.

You know, when I look at what's happening, in addition to all of that and because of it, we are losing. We are lose We have become America has become more unreliable. We've become unreliable to our friends, unreliable as a friend.

To the young leaders here, you don't wanna ever be an unreliable friend. Yeah. And we have also therefore lost our influence. And again, I will say, imperfect though we certainly are, whatever influence that we may have had to talk about issues like human rights

Democracy, we're losing our influence. And what that will mean is extraordinary in terms of America's security and prosperity. Because, you know, let's remember, when America isolated ourselves, we have a history of this, and then Pearl Harbor happened.

And then we decided, oh, we have to we can't, we can't go it alone and and disregard what's happening in the world. So I'm very concerned about it, and you know, the when you look at this war in Iran, which the American people do not want, which was not authorized by but even if it was, it should not have been initiated.

He talked about obliterating, and then he said, oh, he did. It's all just bullshit. You made me do that.

I promise I'm not gonna curse in public anymore. Where are my Midwest friends? You made me do that.

Tears up here, just saying. But what is, what is happening though is we are, we are not only losing our authority, we are, we are literally engaged where we're talking about billions of dollars, where we're talking about gas prices going up, where we're talking about the American people suffering.

And for what? And that's, you know, this is part of how we have to understand how the irresponsibility of this administration is profound. And by the way, back to the analogy about friendships. So as vice president, I also spent a lot of time in, with, in the context of the Indo-Pacific and in the Indo-Pacific.

I traveled and spent a lot of time with the leaders of Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia. Because, you know, we here on this coast of the country, we know that our relationship to the Indo-Pacific is a direct one. And so I spent time with the leaders of those nations, understanding that where we can have and find common ground, we must.

So they have pretty much completely abandoned that focus. And as we all know, nature abhors a vacuum. So guess who's moving on in?

Somebody asked me recently, "Where does China fit into all this?" And I kind of flippantly said, "Well, they're just sitting back eating the popcorn." But really what's happening is they're moving in to fill a void.

I spent time as vice president working on changing the narrative between the relationship of the United States of America with the continent of Africa, that it should not only be about aid, but it should be about partnership, understanding that by twenty fifty it is estimated that one in four people on Earth will be on the continent of Africa. You know how he talks about African nations.

Our adversary, Russia, you wanna know who's the big winner on the Iranian war? Russia. The men's toilet. Because of the oil issue, what has he done?

He's lifted sanctions on Russia. Well, you know what that means? They're making money to sell oil that otherwise they were prevented from selling.

What else does it mean? We're sending artillery, ammunition, air defense that otherwise would be going to Ukraine. That's right. So the consequences are profound.

You're talking about going taking over Greenland, which is a territory of Denmark, which is a NATO ally. You can see it. So but anything But he's not an, he I don't, I don't, I'm not gonna dismiss him as being an idiot.

He's dangerous. Yes. He's dangerous. And America's security and prosperity are on the, in the hands and on, in, on the, on the line in terms of what he does and does not do.

Greenland, anything we want and would have wanted, it, we could get diplomatically, and you're talking about send You know, Article V of the NATO So I know y'all didn't wanna hear all this, but I'm just gonna share it with you. Look, the NATO alliance, right, it is the strongest military alliance the world has ever known.

It is. And there's a part of it, Article V, which basically is kind of like all for one and one for all. If you are a NATO ally, if we are in both NATO allies and you get attacked, I'm stepping up to help you. Article V, okay? So if we're talking about initiating a military action in Greenland, that would ignite Article V.

But the second point, probably more importantly to make, do you know the only nation of all the NATO allies who has ever benefited from Article V? Us, when our allies stepped up to support us after nine eleven.

Yep. So it's gonna take a while, and I have traveled out of the country, you know, a couple times since the election and here's what I will say, and then we can move on to another subject. But one of the things that I also know from my work internationally- Is the strength of the relationship between nations, yes, it is dependent on all of the things we've discussed.

Yes, it is also dependent on the relationship between leaders. And I do believe what fortifies it most importantly is the sense of the connection between the people of nations. And that's where we all come into play.

That's where we all come into play. So we're talking about the midterms. People around the world watch what happens in our elections, obviously, and not only the election for president.

So the work that we the American people, do around these midterms will be part of what we signal about what we care about and who we are, and that we have not, we in this room, have not abandoned our connection to our ideals and principles and values.

Right? Host: And speaking of the midterms, because you referenced, you know, our NATO allies having, you know, memories of abuse of power, and I'm hoping after these midterms abuse of power becomes a distant memory when we win back the House and the Senate. Right? Kamala Harris: But it's not gonna be easy, guys. It's not going to be easy.

They are throwing all kinds of obstacles in our way. That decision from the Supreme Court on the Voting Rights Host: It's my, it's my next question for you. Oh, great. Yeah. No, oh, yeah.

So last week, the Supreme Court threw a devastating Yeah. Right, hammering the Voting Rights Act. How do you think that's gonna play into the midterm elections?

Kamala Harris: I think it's gonna have a profound effect. You already have seen. Look, first of all, so I was interviewed recently and they said, the first question was, "So " because it was the day of it happening, and they said, "Well, when you first heard about it, what did you think?"

And because I was in California, we're on Pacific Standard Time, it was really early in the morning. And again, pardon my language, but the, so the first thing I heard about it was at the crack of dawn, and I was like, "I thought this was gonna happen in June." I didn't think it was gonna because normally the, a lot of the big cases come down in June.

Yeah. Okay? I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I just pay attention. Yeah. Yeah. Alex. What? So part of to answer the question, the midterms, why'd they come down with this decision so early?

Yeah. To give all those states. You see what's happened, Mississippi, Tennessee most Yeah. Louisiana. So they could pull together what they need to do around redrawing their lines.

You saw just what happened in Tennessee- Yeah. Yeah. To redraw those lines, to get those ballots printed for the midterms. Understand what's happening. Yeah.

I was in North Carolina. North in the, let me tell you I went to go visit a group of students 'cause I'd been reading about how they're organizing around voting. These students attend North Carolina A&T.

It is the it is the largest HBCU in America. These young leaders have been organizing because the officials there took their polling place from the campus. What? Took So whereas we raise our children, especially when they hit that age, college age, whether they're in college or not, where we want them to set up good Yeah.

We know that that's the stage at which you will develop your patterns for what you'll do in your life. So we want, don't we? Yeah. We want that our young people will have as part of their pattern that they vote every election, whoever they vote for.

They took their polling place. And this is, and then, oh, and then when I met with them, they shared with me, so they organized and went up to the capital to go speak. And do you know what they were told in the chamber?

"You only have five minutes." What? I'm not finished. "You only have five minutes to leave."

Wow. The arrogance of the brutality of this attack on voting rights. And so we should, by all accounts, based on merit, win the midterms. But it is not going to be easy.

People say to me, "Well, you didn't think that, you think they're gonna cancel the elections?" No, I don't. 'Cause if you thought no kings rallies were a big deal, people will definitely take to the streets. I don't think they're gonna do that.

What they're doing systematically is making it more difficult for people to vote. Look at the Save Act. So the Save Act that they keep pushing, so what that would do is for new registrants to vote, to prove your identity, you'd have to have a birth certificate or passport.

Well, passports cost at least $100 to get. So can you say poll tax? Yeah. Right? If you are one of over 60 million women in America who changed your name when you were Yeah.

The name then on your birth certificate is gonna be different than the name on your driver's license or your ID. Have fun going through that bureaucracy to try and reconcile that. And it's already difficult enough to try and take time off, especially if you work in two or three jobs, or you have two or three children.

Yeah. So this is what's at play They're making it intentionally more difficult for people to vote because they know people are not stupid and are paying attention to the cost of gas and the cost of housing and the cost of this war, and the cost of the brutality on vulnerable people who deserve to have a government that lifts them up instead of beating them down. So let's get ready for this.

This election upcoming in Nevada is gonna be so important. Aaron Ford winning for governor is gonna be so important. You winning, all these state races, because, you know, so much of what's been happening is about this shift of power around local and state government.

Right. So while we always pay attention to the presidential, which we must, these local races, these state races around the country, and I will say candidly, I think that's where, you know, the Democratic Party could have done much Yeah. Around paying attention to local and statewide elections and issues, and supporting that, 'cause that's where this is all coming.

It's bubbling up from a longstanding agenda that they've had to invest in those areas so that now you have these state legislators who are doing things like telling those students at North Carolina A&T, "You have five minutes to get out." So we have work to do, but we know how to do that work. We know how to do that work.

It's like, good. Okay, so this is our fight? All right. I got it. Right? Just tell me what the fight is.

Yeah. And then I know what to put on, right? Speaking of midterms, and what I see now is a room of fired-up Democrats ready, right? Ready And thank you for firing up, firing them up.

Host: And we get a lot of people asking us what can they do, you know? People are frustrated, and they wanna know what can we do. Yeah. Well, you can vote, right?

But we obviously have midterms ahead of us, and here in Nevada, we have reproductive rights on the ballot again. Yes. The second time. We need to pass it this time.

Yeah. We passed it the first time, but we need to pass it the second time to codify it. Right. So Nevada is a state that prides itself on protecting choice, and we've been doing that since Roe v. Wade was overturned. Yeah.

But we Yeah. Telling everyone, "This isn't the end. They're gonna keep coming after choice.

They're gonna keep coming after choice." And we saw that they just did. Yeah. Again. So what would you tell people who wanna get involved?

What can they do right now in this moment? Kamala Harris: Well, part of it is, again, it, the power that we. You know, okay, let me just step back.

There's so much about this moment that has made people feel all those emotions from anger to sadness to depression, frustration for sure. But it's also made people feel hopeless and powerless and alone, and let's speak to that for a moment. You know, there is nothing that makes you know your strength and your power more than, you know how it feels when you help somebody out?

Oh, it makes you feel good, doesn't it? And there's so much good that we can do, just neighbor to neighbor, that is about that, to just remind us of our power. And when, you know, when we do it, and when we all do it, what that means in terms of strengthening community around, as much as anything, around hope and a belief that we are being seen and heard.

There is the work that we need to do around, first of all, everybody just check your voter registration status. Anybody you know in another state, remind them to do that. That seems like, "Oh, why would we do that?

That's, we've never had to worry about that before." Well, with all this business of them purging the voter rolls, not to mention how they've been going and taking ballots from various states, remind people, check your voter registration status. Make sure you check your polling location.

Part of the game that they're playing, again, to make it more difficult, is this shell game, closing voting, polling locations so, you know, your parents and your grandparents always voted at that elementary school down the street. And then on Election Day, if that's the only day they choose to vote, they'll walk down there and it won't be there. Yeah. So some of the basics too, just let's check those things.

Volunteer to be a poll worker. Volunteer on a campaign. Yeah. Figure out how you can support candidates.

And in that way, it is really, it's, you know, I will tell you is, okay, this is a total digression, but campaigns, I've been in a lot of them for myself and others, and campaigning is fun, right? You meet the best people. You meet the angels walking among us.

Right? There are babies that have been born because of my campaigns. Marriages and babies and all this, right? I see the young people.

But I mean, the bottom line is this, and I know we're running out of time. I firmly and strongly believe that when you feel powerless, you are powerless. And when you feel powerful, you are powerful.

Right. And we are powerful and we are powerful. And so let's just show ourselves, each other, our power around the midterms, and every day, and every day that we are seen, we see each other, that this is our country. We love our country, and we are going to fight for its ideals.

We are gonna fight for the dream. We know that that fight can be difficult, but we're not going to let them get in our head and defeat us because there is so much at stake and so much good, so much good to be done. So thank you all.